Copyright and licences

To: Russ <>
Subject: Copyright and licences
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 19:05:56 +1100
Russ et al,

Perhaps it would be better if those who want to build up their library of bird 
sound restricted their efforts to Xeno-Canto. Xeno-Canto's recording of 
Australian bird sounds can be found at
The recordings on XC are covered by various Creative Commons licences, which 
allow one to freely use the recordings for personal use.

There are also a growing number of Australian species for download on the 
Internet Bird Collection at
I believe recordings on IBC are also covered by Creative Commons.

Downloading from these sites is much easier than trying to hack Morecombe ( or 
Pizzey, when it appears. Also much cheaper than hiring a solicitor to defend 
you in breach of copy-write proceedings.


Carl Clifford 

On 06/02/2013, at 18:27, Russ <> wrote:

> Hi everyone
> I'm a bit concerned about some of the recent discussion about
> extracting audio from apps and copying tapes or CDs.
> In the case of Morecombe's eGuide to Australian Birds, it is designed
> to be used on a range of portable devices and is sold as such. Whilst
> you may feel left out if your device won't run the app, converting it
> to run differently contravenes the contract agreed to at purchase, and
> in that case breaches the Copyright Act 1968. Giving instructions on
> how to achieve this sort of app conversion, especially publicly, might
> be viewed as inciting a breach of the Act, and that too is unlawful.
> The developers of this app are aware of the discussion on Birding-Aus
> and have asked that contributors stop posting comments, instructions
> or suggestions on how to breach their copyright. I think this is a
> fair request - it is defintely one that could be backed with legal
> action. Fortunately, the developers are nice people (they are birders
> after all) who merely want to protect their legal and intellectual
> property.
> If you want to discuss tha app itself, that's fine, as long as it's
> about how you use it (legally) or features you'd like to see in it, or
> even some stories of how it has helped you solve an identification
> problem. Could I also ask that contributors exercise discretion when
> they discuss illegal copying or distributing of tapes, CDs, or any
> other items governed by copyright law? Remember that while copyright
> sometimes appears to throw up inconvenient obstacles, it is there
> mainly to protect the hard work and ideas of writers, artists,
> photographers, recordists and others without whom birding would be
> missing many of its helpful tools.
> Russell Woodford
> Birding-Aus Founder
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