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Avian Hybrids

To: Nev Capell <>
Subject: Avian Hybrids
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:14:38 +1100
Thanks - that works. It seems that Stephen and I get totally different
results from Google - after 40+ years of working with computers I still
don't understand them :-)

On 26 January 2013 09:10, Nev Capell <> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Try this link;
>
> http://www.spinus.info/Images/books/AH743697479746.pdf
>
> Nev Capell
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>
>> Very strange - that is what  did before and I can see pages up to 123 and
>> then the next one it shows is 181! Maybe - and this is a pure guess - they
>> show different people different pages. After all they cannot presumably
>> show the entire book for copyright reasons so perhaps what I get is
>> different to what you get?
>>
>> Just tested on my wife's PC using Firefox (I use Chrome as a browser).
>> Basically the same pages available there except that the ones from 124 to
>> 180 do not show at all on my PC but on hers they show as blank pages with
>> a
>> message that the page is not available for viewing!
>>
>> WOuld be interested to know what other people are getting!
>>
>> On 26 January 2013 08:53, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Dave,
>> >
>> > Try this link then click on "View Sample" in top left hand corner of
>> page,
>> > scroll down to p. 173.:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Handbook_of_Avian_Hybrids_of_the_Worl
>> > d.htm?id=MwInO7z_Y3oC&redir_esc=y
>> >
>> >
>> > The book states that the Lesser Black-backed Gull (Larus fuscus) has
>> been
>> > recorded interbreeding with L. argentatus (Herring Gull), L. cachinnans
>> > (Yellow-legged Gull), L. canus (Mew Gull), L. glaucoides (Iceland
>> Gull), L.
>> > hyperboreus (Glaucous Gull) and L. ridibundus (Black-headed Gull).
>> >
>> > L. heuglini (Heuglin's Gull) has only been recorded interbreeding with
>> L.
>> > argentatus (Herring Gull).
>> >
>> > L. dominicanus (Kelp Gull) has been recorded interbreeding with L.
>> > argentatus (Herring Gull) and L. delawarensis (Ring-billed Gull).
>> >
>> > So there were no records of Kelp (Cape) Gulls interbreeding with Lesser
>> > Black-backed Gulls up to 2006, the year that this book was published.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Stephen
>> >
>> > Stephen Ambrose
>> > Ryde, NSW
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: 
>> >  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
>> > Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 7:09 AM
>> > To: Stephen Ambrose
>> > Cc: 
>> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids
>> >
>> > Interesting - I cannot see them - pages 124-180 are not shown when I
>> browse
>> > the book online. Maybe I am doing something wrong?
>> >
>> > On 25 January 2013 19:29, Stephen Ambrose <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Dave,****
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > Yes they do - pp. 173 to 179 (Family Laridae: Gulls, Terns &
>> > Noddies).****
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,****
>> > >
>> > > Stephen****
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > *From:* Dave Torr 
>> > > *Sent:* Friday, 25 January 2013 6:23 PM
>> > > *To:* Stephen Ambrose
>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Birding-Aus] Avian Hybrids****
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > Alas none of the pages in Google Books cover the gulls!****
>> > >
>> > > On 25 January 2013 17:59, Stephen Ambrose <>
>> > wrote:*
>> > > ***
>> > >
>> > > Handbook of Avian Hybrids of the World****
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
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