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Impact of climate change on pelagic birding

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Subject: Impact of climate change on pelagic birding
From: "Martin Wigginton" <>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:26:52 -0000

Laurie, I welcome your constructive and courteous disagreement. But, Nikolas, it is best not to personalise responses, I think. The topic is now parked, so far as I am concerned.

Martin
(scientist: peer-reviewed publication record from 1968 on).


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-----Original Message----- From: Nikolas Haass
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:02 PM
To: Jeremy O'Wheel ; Laurie Knight ; Birding Aus
Subject: Impact of climate change on pelagic birding

Dear Birding-Aus,

Not sure if everyone here knows the difference between a scientific article such as the one by Wu et al. in Nature Climate Change and someones personal blog. I am not a climatologist but I am a scientist, too. Manuscripts submitted to any journal of the Nature Publishing Group (NPG) and to their serious competitors (e.g. Science and many others) undergo a thorough peer-review - usually by experts in the field. The main journal of the group, Nature, has a rejection rate of more than 90%, which shows how hard it is to get an article published in such a journal. But yes, it happens once in a while that a story gets published and later turns out to be wrong. Then other serious scientists - not some dubious bloggers - have the chance to correct the error in a professional peer-reviewed paper.

M. complains about the lack of "REAL data" and calls the Wu et al. paper "flawed". O.K., maybe or maybe not? Where are the "REAL data" then that prove the Wu et al. paper wrong, M.?Finally, M.'s lack of understanding of the topic climate change is documented by his comment regarding "tiny differences in ocean temperatures".

Why am I writing this? In doubt, it makes more sense to incorporate a professionally published article into public knowledge than someone's un-peer-reviewed blog that reflects the opinion of the writer rather than real science!

Cheers,

Nikolas

P.S. Maybe the webmaster should take this whole counterproductive debate off the web?

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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW




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