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lone White Throated Needletail?

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Subject: lone White Throated Needletail?
From: Pat OMalley <>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 07:17:51 +0000
In South Gippsland (Fish Creek) at the moment and over the past few days have 
seen what appears to be a lone White Throated Needletail on three occasions. 
Only feeble bins with me and its quite high, so ID not 100% Doesn't appear to 
be a Hobby (Pizzey and Knight suggest this as a possibility). I can't recall 
seeing a lone specimen before - any suggestions/comments (other than always 
take the good bins with me).?

Cheers
Pat

Pat O'Malley
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Today's Topics:

   1. Tassie Birds and Rufous Bristlebird (Geoffrey Jones)
   2. Buff-rumped Thornbill (Geoffrey Jones)
   3. Bird Flu (Wendy)
   4. Re: Bird Flu (Denise Goodfellow)
   5. Re: Bird Flu (Tony Keene)
   6. Re: Bird Flu (Carl Clifford)
   7. Re: Bird Flu (Jeremy O'Wheel)
   8. Ash Island Fire (Roger Giller)
   9. Ash Island Fire (Roger Giller)
  10. Do Blue-billed Ducks creche their young? (Dimitris Bertzeletos)
  11. "Predicted" Message from John McGowan Possible Virus
      (Carl Clifford)
  12. Re: "Predicted" Message from John McGowan Possible Virus
      (Peter Shute)
  13. Re: "Predicted" Message from John McGowan Possible        Virus
      (Bill Stent)
  14. Re: "Predicted" Message from John McGowan Possible Virus
      (Peter Shute)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:40:38 +1100
From: "Geoffrey Jones" <>
To: "'birding-aus'" <>
Subject: Tassie Birds and Rufous Bristlebird
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Good Afternoon Everyone



                                             Nicked down to Western
Treatment Plant last Friday Afternoon to look for Banded Stilts but they
were a fair distance off so I took some photos of a lovely Australian
Spotted Crake near the bird hide. I stayed with a mate of mine on Friday
night and headed down to Point Addis early Sat morning and managed some nice
shots of Rufous Bristlebird as well as a group of Buff-breasted Thornbills.

I have also posted some more photos of my Tassie trip in Nov with 3 Robins
being seen Flame, Scarlet & Pink as well as Scrubtit. Here is my usual Link
http://barraimaging.com.au/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=lastup

Kindest Regards

Geoff Jones

Barraimaging



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:41:29 +1100
From: "Geoffrey Jones" <>
To: "'birding-aus'" <>
Subject: Buff-rumped Thornbill
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Been a long day, meant to say Buff-rumped Thornbill not Buff-breasted

Regards

Geoff Jones

Barraimaging



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:24:35 +1000
From: "Wendy" <>
To: "Birding-aus" <>
Subject: Bird Flu
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Hi all,
If you are feeling a bit hot, with today's warm weather, here is a way to make 
your blood run cold, have a listen to the ABC Radio National Health Report 
story about Bird Flu research.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/health-report-23-january-2012/3785124

Not only could this lead to the massive loss of wild and domestic birds, that 
has already been the risk, now some bright sparks have worked out, and all but 
published, HOW TO make the virus air transmissible in mammals with, I think 
they said, SIXTY PERCENT mortality - FAR higher than the post WWI flu pandemic 
had. This research was also undertaken in not highest safety labs.

I am all for free exchange of scientific knowledge,  this is VERY scary. 
Thankfully world scientists have taken action to try to keep this genie in its 
bottle.

Wendy

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:59:12 +0930
From: Denise Goodfellow <>
To: Wendy <>, Birding Aus
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Subject: Bird Flu
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Just listening.  Given the number of misbehaving scientists I've known or
know about I'm not as hopeful as you Wendy, on attempts to keep the genie in
the bottle.
Denise


on 23/1/12 5:54 PM, Wendy at  wrote:

> Hi all,
> If you are feeling a bit hot, with today's warm weather, here is a way to make
> your blood run cold, have a listen to the ABC Radio National Health Report
> story about Bird Flu research.
> http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/health-report-23-jan
> uary-2012/3785124
>
> Not only could this lead to the massive loss of wild and domestic birds, that
> has already been the risk, now some bright sparks have worked out, and all but
> published, HOW TO make the virus air transmissible in mammals with, I think
> they said, SIXTY PERCENT mortality - FAR higher than the post WWI flu pandemic
> had. This research was also undertaken in not highest safety labs.
>
> I am all for free exchange of scientific knowledge,  this is VERY scary.
> Thankfully world scientists have taken action to try to keep this genie in its
> bottle.
>
> Wendy
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:51:15 +0100
From: "Tony Keene" <>
To: "Birding Aus" <>
Subject: Bird Flu
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Personally, I would worry much more about H5N1 making the jump between birds 
and mammals in China of its own accord. It's a fairly common practise there to 
keep pigs and chickens in the same farm. Pigs are often receptive to avian flu, 
but are also close enough to us that it allows any mutation in pigs to have a 
high chance of being able to infect humans too.
 Thankfully, we have considerably better healthcare systems in place than were 
about in the 1918-19 epidemic, both in terms of containment and treatment. 
Something also worth noting is that while a high percentage of cases of H5N1 in 
people have resulted in mortality, the majority of those who contracted it were 
immune-deficient in the first place, not only making it easier for them to 
become infected, but also to succumb to it.
 As for the risible claim that 'terrorists' can use this information (which the 
US have been bandying around), they often tend to struggle in obtaining the 
level of competitive funding needed to be able to do that level of lab work. 
I'd say the US are more worried about a state player getting their hands on the 
info.
 Cheers,

 Tony




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