Buff-breasted Button-quail search 11-13/12/11

To: Birding Aus <>, Keith Brandwood <>
Subject: Buff-breasted Button-quail search 11-13/12/11
From: Carl Billingham <>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:23:50 -0800 (PST)
Thank you for your considered response Keith.  No recordings of BBBQ exist so 
using playback for BBBQ is impossible.  I believed that posting my report would 
provide information that would assist with research into a little known endemic 
species.  Furthermore, I did not believe I was disclosing any new site 
information that should be kept secret, all GPS co-ordinates provided in my 
report had been posted on Birding-Aus previously except for my own sighting 
which is slap bang in the middle of the others.
I haven't posted a trip report on Birding-Aus for a long time because of the 
tiresome judgemental comments from self-appointed 'ethical birding police' and 
based on this I have decided I wont be posting any more either.  I know I am 
not alone in this regard.  Good luck to anybody else willing to stick their 
necks up above the parapet in future.

--- On Wed, 21/12/11, Keith Brandwood <> wrote:

From: Keith Brandwood <>
Subject: Buff-breasted Button-quail search 11-13/12/11
To: "Carl Billingham" <>, "Birding Aus" 
Received: Wednesday, 21 December, 2011, 3:05 PM

Hi birdo's where are the ethics in all this searching for the BBB Quail. It is 
the middle of the breeding season and here we have a number of people trampling 
around in a paddock for a number of days flushing quail. I wonder how many 
eggs/nests we trampled.Some years ago I alerted Sydney birders to a paddock 
where Red Backed, Red Chested, King,Painted, Brown and Stubble Quail were. I 
felt quiet ashamed on returning to the paddock some weeks later to see it 
flattened by all the feet that had trampled the area. I have to admit that I 
was also guilty of some of the trampling taking birders back there on a number 
of occasions. After seeing the destruction we caused I realized what a selfish 
unthinking act we had committed,I don't know how many nest we would have 
damaged but certainly some.I decided from that day on I would never be the 
cause of such destruction again. There is a better way as from my experience 
King,Painted,Brown and Stubble quail respond to
 play back readily. I have no experience with the BBBQ or the other species but 
would be confident they also respond.The great advantage of play back is by 
drawing the quail into view gives you a much better chance of seeing them than 
trampling their habitat trying to flushing them.However please be responsible 
when using playback, use it in short burst and turn it off when the bird 
appears, this will cause the minimum harm as over use as been shown to upset 
nesting birds.

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