Only because I haven't found an easy-to-use piece of software that follows
the IOC list... If there is such a program, please let me know!
cheers
Peter
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 17:42, Steve Potter <> wrote:
> Hi Peter and Carl.
>
> Curious?
>
> Why the decision to use Clements and not IOC. I am new to all this stuff. I
> still can’t bring myself to call a Yellow and Blue Rosella “Crimson”
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve Potter
>
>
>
> *Scarlet Myzomela*
>
> from [*Carl
> Clifford*<http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bfrom%3Acarlsclifford%40gmail.com&idxname=birding-aus&sort=date%3Alate>
> ]
>
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> ][Original<http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/cgi-bin/extract-mesg.cgi?a=birding-aus&m=2011-04&i=BAD9690F-5D0F-4180-B89C-C5D6800F334E%40gmail.com>
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>
> *To**: ***
>
> Peter Waanders < >
>
> *Subject**: ***
>
> Scarlet Myzomela
>
> *From**: ***
>
> Carl Clifford < >
>
> *Date**: ***
>
> Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:52:06 +1100
>
>
>
> Peter,
>
>
>
> Tell me about it. I am finishing off the "irregularities" that popped up
> when I transferred my sightings from Bento, in which I had used the IOC list
> and C&B and proper English spellings, into Birdbrain, which is Clements
> based. Oh what fun I have had! Not only are there the examples you cite, but
> others such as Pacific Reef Heron ( I thought being in the genus Egretta
> might have given them a clue there) and one that particularly gets up my
> nose, Pink Bl***y Cockatoo for Major Mitchell Cockatoo. This I find a gross
> insult, not only to the memory of Major Mitchell but to the people of
> Australia. This is apparently accepted by BA.
>
>
>
> In the overview to the latest updates to Clements on the Cornell Lab
> website, it is mentioned that as they have finished with the North and South
> American and Australian checklists, they will be looking at other regions
> including Asia. That should be interesting.
>
>
>
> I think I will have to lash out and buy a copy of FileMaker and make my own
> database using my own preferred nomenclature and bugger the rest.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
>
> P.S. Anyone want a hardly used copy of Clements? Only a few tear stains on
> it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/04/2011, at 10:34 AM, Peter Waanders wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Carl,
>
> There's lots of this sort of stuff with Clements - for starters, all Grey
> birds are Gray. Then there's the Rufous Night-heron, Black- breasted Kite
> (not Buzzard), Australian (not Black-shouldered) Kite, Thick-knees not
> Stone-curlews, Red-headed and Scarlet Myzomela (not Honeyeater) and probably
> more. As you well know there's pros and cons with each global checklist, but
> Clements appears to remain the most widely used list despite some of its
> peculiarities. One of the main criticisms of Clements has long been that
> they seem to have paid undue respect to nomenclature / taxonomy changes in
> checklists put forward by regional authorities (such as BA), and it seems
> that they've now finally taken this on board, which should be applauded. We
> can only hope that future updates continue this trend. Nevertheless, note
> that they state on their website 'where necessary the final decisions on
> taxonomy and nomenclature are made by the Clements Checklist team'.
>
>
>
> cheers
>
> Peter
>
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