Yes, I should have said "and maybe White-bellied Sea-eagle". And does this mean
that one definition for "hawk" is all those in Accipitridae family except the
eagles?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Veerman
> Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2011 1:32 PM
> To: Peter Shute;
> Subject: What is a hawk?
>
> I would say yes to your question. As to list all the group names in a
> title would be too long. Also raises the aspect (and I'm not expert on
> this) that the Red Goshawk, Black-breasted Buzzard and Square-tailed
> Kite are probably more closely related to each other and not actually
> closely related to real goshawks, buzzards and kites. They
> are probably
> convergent with those groups. (And that is even ignoring for now that
> Americans use the word "buzzard" for new world vultures (that
> are closer
> related to storks) and use the word "hawk" for buzzards (Buteo).
>
> The only other point is that sea-eagles are regarded as over
> grown kites
> (and thus hawks), rather that true eagles. I don't know the exact
> diagnosis of why that is the case other than that true eagles
> have fully
> feathered legs and sea-eagles don't but there probably are more
> technical anatomical and chemical reasons than that.
>
> Philip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Peter Shute
> Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2011 8:27 AM
> To:
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] What's a hawk?
>
>
> I'm reading "Eagles, Hawks and Falcons" by David Hollands, and I'm
> wondering about the title. It covers all Australian diurnal
> raptors, but
> he doesn't specify which species he has classified as an
> eagle, a hawk,
> or a falcon, or even discuss the matter.
>
> If "falcons" covers the family Falconidae, and "eagles" covers Little
> and Wedge-tailed Eagles, and White-bellied Sea-Eagle, does that mean
> everything else is a hawk?
>
> Peter Shute
>
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