Hi Tim and Tony,
I think what someone would willingly pay for something like this is a very
personal thing. If Tony can't swing $450 to see Princess Parrots, I don't
think you can blame him. Personally, even if I could afford it, I wouldn't
pay $450 for less than a day's guiding for any bird anywhere in the world.
If I were retired and well off maybe it would be a different story, who
knows? I think the concept of the permit and indigenous guiding is a great
one, I just don't think they have the balance right yet, as I would place
their price well above standard guiding rates.
Regards,
Chris
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Tim Dolby <> wrote:
> I think you're being a little harsh Tony.
>
> I think the cost is reasonable for a chance to see such an iconic and hard
> to find species. It was not that long ago that Mike Carter resorted to
> drinking radiator water when his vehicle expired on the Canning Stock Route
> as he went in search of Princess Parrot. There are many species of birds
> that are best seen with the local assistance of a guide / bird guide, with
> this cost not dissimilar from the costs charged by birding tours.
>
> The money also provides valuable financial assistance to the traditional
> land owners. Many conservation / birding organisations recognize the
> importance of establishing positive relationships with local and indigenous
> people. Creating sustainable livelihoods through birdwatching tourism for
> indigenous people can have a real impact both on the lives of the
> traditional land owners but also bird conservation. A recent example of this
> is the Kakadu Birding Project (see
> http://www.birdsaustralia.com.au/birds/kakadu-birding-project.html). The
> development of Import Bird Area (IBA) works along similar principles;
> recognizing that working with local people and traditional land owners has a
> positive impact of local conservation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim Dolby
>
> ________________________________________
> From:
> on behalf of Tony Russell
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:18 PM
> To: Birds
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrots
>
> Thank you John for this report and congrats on finding the PPs. However:
> I too thought about going but baulked at the excessive cost of a permit
> required to enter the restricted areas. $450 for a piece of paper which
> probably took a clerk about two minutes to make out is not my idea of
> good value, no matter what tick is at stake. Someone is ripping us off
> guys.
>
> I'll wait til the PPs appear on non restricted land - and if they don't,
> well so be it, I'll go without.
>
> Tony
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of John Reidy
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 10:00 AM
> To: Birding-Aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrots
>
>
> Hi all.
>
> Have just returned from a successful trip to see Princess Parrots near
> King's Canyon NT. 5 of us (Allan Benson, Rob Benson, Alan Morris,
> Margaret Reidy) booked through the Central Land Council. We met our host
>
> from the CLC and three aborigines representing the traditional owner and
>
> were led to a location off the Mereenie Loop road where the birds are
> breeding. Initially it didn't look good as we were driving directly into
>
> a very sinister looking storm front. It had started to rain solidly
> before we arrived at the site and we had no choice but to get out and
> search for the parrots. We were soaked to the skin, cold and a bit
> despondent before our aboriginal representatives gave a yell and we saw
> two birds in flight. These were rather poor views and we thought that
> that might be it as the birds disappeared and there was no other
> activity. But eventually we saw some more and after an hour or so the
> weather eased up and we were eventually able to see the birds sitting in
>
> full sunshine sitting on dead branches, giving some good photographic
> opportunities.
>
> At this stage we were all ecstatic with the views we were getting. We
> saw all up about 20 birds.
>
> We had travelled via Alice Springs where we hired a Nissan Patrol and
> travelled south down the Stuart Highway and took the Ernest Giles dirt
> road as a shortcut. We paid for this with a blow out. As it rained on
> Thursday and Friday nights at Kings Canyon, we elected to return to
> Alice via the bitumen which was a longer way around, but we did see a
> pair of Bustards on the way.
>
> A word of warning, the Central Land Council is taking legal action
> against some people that have trespassed on their land.
>
> Happy birding!
>
> --
> John Reidy
> Sydney
> Phone 02 9871 4836
> Fax 02 9871 2616
>
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