Swan River Honeyeater

To: "'John Graff'" <>
Subject: Swan River Honeyeater
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 22:59:27 +1100
Technically you are correct. In that this is part of the rules for
scientific names. Common names do not go by the same rules. However they
do tend to follow those rules if possible and convenient, but this is a
much greyer area. For example we talk of true moles or true magpies or
true wrens or true warblers, as the creatures to whom those names are
applied to first. In our society that is typically Europe or Britain. So
we need to invent new names when we can, for the things that are in part
named after those groups. With limited success. Of course it is
nonsensical to the animals. There is nothing less valid about out
Fairy-wrens compared to true Wrens etc. Why should one be true and the
other not?


-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of John Graff
Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 9:07 PM
To: ; 
Cc: Birding-Aus
Subject: Swan River Honeyeater

I thought that was only applicable to scientific names. E.g. Gould also
calls the White-naped Honeyeater (eastern) Lunulated Honeyeater and
calls the Mistletoebird the Swallow Dicaeum
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Swan River Honeyeater
> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 20:59:34 +1100
> CC: 
> Well, that gives the name precedence.
> Cheers,
> Carl Clifford
> On 05/11/2010, at 8:01 PM, Cas and Lisa Liber wrote:
> Gould called it that:
> See from the man himself:
> cheers
> Cas
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  On Behalf Of John Graff
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:37 PM
> To: Birding-Aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Swan River Honeyeater
> Hi all,
> Is anyone in the know able to comment on the why 'Swan River'
> Honeyeater was
> chosen as the name for this bird - I would have thought there were
> appropriate names?
> TIA,
> John ==========


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