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Ornithological Hansonism ?

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: Ornithological Hansonism ?
From: Ian May <>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:01:28 +1100
"So You Think" the arguments of lumpers and splitters might be solved by appointing a panel of international experts. Such as those PBs who turned our Stone Curlew into a "Thicknee"?
I might stick to Cayley's thanks.

Ian



Carl Clifford wrote:

Dear All,

I am amazed by the constant outbreaks of ornithological Hansonism that pops up in B-Aus when it comes to bird names. The International Ornithological Union (IOU) is an international body of prominent professional ornithologists ( some 200) who, among many other things, arbitrate on the common names of birds. The membership of the IOU can be seen at http://int-ornith-union.org/IOUmembers.html Among the members of the IOU are Dr. Richard Schodde and Dr. Walter Boles, both of who seem to know a thing or two about birds.
The publication "Birds of the World : Recommended English Names" by  
Gill & Wright is published on behalf of the IOU and is "a volunteer  
project with worldwide participation by birders and professional  
ornithologists". The goal of this publication is "to facilitate  
worldwide communication in ornithology and conservation through the  
consistent use of English names linked to current species taxonomy.  The 
English names  follow explicit guidelines for spelling and  construction 
that increase clarity of application", so it it is not an  ivory tower 
publicaton, but a collaboration between amateur and  professional 
ornithologists. On those grounds I think it is reasonable  to regard 
BOTW as the standard list of common English language names  world wide. 
If anyone can come up with a rational argument as to why  this should 
not be so, I would be very interested in hearing it.
As for Scientific names and species status, the Index of Organism  Names 
(ION), see http://www.organismnames.com/  , which ION contains  the 
organism names related data gathered from the scientific  literature for 
Thomson Reuters' Zoological Record® database. Viruses,  bacteria and 
plant names will be added from other Thomson Reuters  databases such as 
BIOSIS Previews® and Biological Abstracts® " is the  repository for all 
currently accepted species of everything. If it  lives and has been 
named, it is in ION.
There is a well established mechanism for the common names of birds  and 
whether a species is a species, so why not stick to it, as it  seems to 
work well.
All we need to do now is to try and get a single Avian taxonomy up and  
accepted, but I don't think any of us will see that in our lifetimes.
Cheers,

Carl Clifford

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