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Birding-Aus] shining flycatchers on sunshine coast

To: peter crow <>
Subject: Birding-Aus] shining flycatchers on sunshine coast
From: Chris Sanderson <>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:10:12 +1000
Hi Peter, I think you've mistaken Greg's post as being about Satin
Flycatchers.  Greg is reporting Shining Flycatchers, a northern Australian
bird that is practically extra-limital around Brisbane.  I know of them
being recorded around Boondall before but this is a good record.

Regards,
Chris

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:59 AM, peter crow <>wrote:

> Hello Greg,
>
> There is quite a bit of discussion re Shining flycatchers in SEQ. It seems
> that the best and possibly only time they frequent SEQ is on their migration
> north and south each year.
>
> Many claims of Shining Flycatchers are probably mistaken Leaden
> Flycatchers.
>
> Your statement re the southern limit of their distribution does not agree
> with HANZAB which indicates they are far more common in southern Aust and
> Tas than in Qld.
>
> There a few reports of vagrants in NZ. It also reports that all breeding
> records in SEQ are doubtful.  It seems breeding is definitely in Souther
> Australia.
>
> Migration north seems to be in autumn and returning in spring. Many go as
> Far as the Bismarck Arch.
>
> Your statement re being rare in SEQ temphasises of the confusion associated
> with this species. They are seen during migration but at other times the
> jury is still out.
>
> Many people confuse Shining F with Leaden F and make incorrect reports. Any
> one definitely identifying Shining Flycatchers in SEQ should carefully
> record their sighting and forward it to BA's Atlas. Lots of records are
> needed to clear up the Shining Flycatcher uncertainty.
>
>  I've been birding with quite a few people who have identified a Leaden F
> as a Shining F. The darkness of the birds colouring is not relevant.
>
> However there is no good reason why anyone should doubt your sighting or
> Jill's for that matter as birds can fly and they don't read HANZAB.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 22/01/2010, at 11:00 AM,  wrote:
>
>  Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:58:50 +1000
>> From: "Greg Roberts" <>
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] shining flycatchers on sunshine coast
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>> I had cracking views this morning of a male and a female Shining
>> Flycatcher
>> in mangroves at Pelican Waters, on Queensland's Sunshine Coast, in the
>> latest indication that this region is shaping up as quite a birding
>> hotspot.
>> Shining Flycatchers are very rare in southeast Queensland, the southern
>> limit of their distribution, and it is not certain if they are present all
>> year in very small numbers there or are summer visitors. The species has
>> been seen occasionally in the past by Jill Dening and others in
>> Pumicestone
>> Passage, the northern end of which is near where the birds were this
>> morning.
>> Greg Roberts
>>
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