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Identifying bird groups in need of a name change

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Identifying bird groups in need of a name change
From: L&L Knight <>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:42:04 +1000
Yes, it is as inappropriate as stone curlew, which is used to refer to birds that are neither curlews nor have strong affinities with stones.

Why ram the names of two groups of English species together to name an unrelated group in Australia? Someone had the whit to come up with
new names like Whipbird, Wedgebill, and Honeyeater.  If you want a
longer name, then of course you can use names like Spider-hunter.

Regards, Laurie.

On 26/11/2009, at 12:24 PM, Peter Shute wrote:

Is a cuckoo-shrike inappropriately named? It's neither a cuckoo nor a shrike, but doesn't the addition of the hyphen create a new name
that can be applied to a bird that's neither of those?

It might be a mouthful, but compare it to the German practice of
creating new words just by joining words together, e.g.
Einhandmotorkettensägenführerlehrgangsteilnahmebestätigung.
(Someone might be having me on, but I'm led to believe that means
chainsaw operator's certificate - One-man-motor-chain-saw-operator's- instruction-course-participating-certificate).

Peter Shute

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Jeff is right, it is time to stop waffling and start a systematic
approach to the issue of dodgy bird names.

I would say that the first step is to list bird groups that are
inappropriately named, such as robins, cuckoo-shrikes and magpies.

Regards, Laurie.

On 26/11/2009, at 11:29 AM, Jeff Davies wrote:

Surely this thread has run its course by now.
I honestly don't believe that there will be an overwhelming show of
hands to start calling a Cuckoo-shrike a Cush, enough already.

Cheers Jeff.


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