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Re 'English Australian bird names'

To: Carl Clifford <>, Tony Russell <>
Subject: Re 'English Australian bird names'
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:12:38 -0800 (PST)
Keep in mind that a large number of English bird names both in Australia and 
American are misnomers, because they were named by their superficial 
resemblance to European birds more familiar to the British people colonizing 
other continents. 
Brushturkeys aren't turkeys, WW Choughs aren't choughs, Aussie Magpies aren't 
magpies, Old World Warblers, New World Warblers and Gerygones are unrelated 
taxonomic groups, robins aren't robins, chats aren't chats, flycatchers aren't 
flycatchers, treecreepers aren't treecreepers, wrens aren't wrens, songlarks 
aren't larks (but Old World Warblers!)...

Does it matter? Maybe not. But it can get quite complicated when you guide 
people from other continents who quite often get very confused...

Cheers,

Nikolas

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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW



----- Original Message ----
From: Carl Clifford <>
To: Tony Russell <>
Cc: ; Pat OMalley <>
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 11:48:41 PM
Subject: Re 'Jabiru'

Sorry Tony, it's not. We were beaten to the punch by hundreds of years. People 
were calling a bird in S. America "Jabiru" hundreds if not thousands of years 
before we European blow-ins arrived in Australia and it was picked up by 
Europeans in S America when Australia was a blank on the map. I prefer Jabiru 
myself, but I accept the fact that someone got there first, and no amount of 
tanties and holding your breath till you go blue in the face will change it. 
Someone made a stuff up with the name yonks ago, and I don't see why it should 
be perpetuated.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 19/11/2009, at 10:59 PM, Tony Russell wrote:

It's a JABIRU !

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Pat OMalley
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:55 PM
To: 
Subject: Re 'Jabiru'


Before folk get too patriotic, it's worth remembering that the Black
Necked Stork is found pretty much across southern Asia. It may be a bit
presumptuous to assume we have naming rights!

Cheers

Pat
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