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RE: Entering trip report in Wildiaries

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Subject: RE: Entering trip report in Wildiaries
From: Simon Mustoe <>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:54:42 +0000
Bob,

All sound points and things to do. For now, just use 
http://aussiebirding.wildiaries.com. You can sign in there. You don't need to 
visit http://wildiaries.com at all.

The structure is a bit non-intuitive at the moment and we are taking 
suggestions on how to enhance it. The reason it is not clear is that getting it 
all set up perfectly would have cost too much in advance. I very nearly only 
launched the bird site but I quickly needed to add loads of others, so I could 
record my reptiles, amphibians, mammals etc. I made the decision to launch 
multiple sites knowing that it would not be perfected...it's a bit like 
Microsoft launching Windows while it was a bit incomplete. However, it was 
better this than having to respond to comments about capacity to enter other 
species.

So the way it works, very simply, is this:

1. Sign up to the birds site, create a trip. Enter bird sightings and images.
2. If you enter images of a mammal:
a. Choose to 'share' that trip (from the trip edit page) on Australian Mammals.
b. Click the resulting link*. This will take you to Australian Mammals. Click 
'Join this site'. - this will now appear at the top of your page when you sign 
in.
3. Find your trip within 'Australian Mammals'. Now you can tag your mammal 
images and add mammal sightings.
4. You can share the trip on multiple sites, adding other species groups as you 
go.

*Note, unhelpfully, this currently goes to the main page but next week, we are 
reprogramming this to stay within the page, thus enabling quick movement 
between the sites in which a trip is shared.

Creating a trip is actually very easy but yes, we do need to refine the user 
interface for multiple sites and this feedback is very useful. Hierarchical 
sites like this are a new concept to the web and not immediately obvious to 
people how they work.

Again, I would stress that you should enter 
http://aussiebirding.wildiaries.com. The other page is a landing page for all 
manner of sites, including sites from Nepal, UK etc. It won't really help you 
to go there at the moment.

Regards,

Simon.






> From: 
> To: 
> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:45:19 +1000
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] RE: Wildiaries versus Flickr
>
> I am having trouble with "Wildiaries" (very strange spelling).
>
> If I 'Google' "wildiaries" (it took me a while to realise there is only one 
> 'd') the first choice I
> am presented with is a site with the URL
> wildiaries.com/.
> If I 'click' on the link to that site I reach a page titled "wildiaries 
> wildiaries" (I do so hate
> the lack of capitalisation that is rife these days!).
> What I see is one of the strangest web-pages I have ever seen.
> There appears to be some 'links' at the top of the page but when I 'click' on 
> one, e.g.,
> "birds"...........nothing happens. Except there is a message at the bottom 
> left of my screen saying
> "! error on page".
>
> Obviously I am doing something wrong............but what?
>
> Do I have to 'subscribe' to the site to be able to access the wonders being 
> touted or am I
> using the wrong web-browser?
> I use Internet Explorer 7.
>
> However, if, for example, I click on the link provided to Chris Sanderson's 
> Southport pelagic report
> (in a recent posting to BirdingAus) I go to a page obviously on the same 
> web-site as the one
> mentioned above but containing the report and several medium quality photos.
> The photos look like they are in a sort of gallery but it is not possible to 
> simply view the photos
> in sequence as is the case in most on-line galleries I have encountered 
> before. One has to return to
> the 'front page' after viewing each photo to select the next photo to be 
> viewed. This can be a very
> time consuming and frustrating process......enough so that I don't think I 
> have ever stayed around
> long enough to view a complete set of photos on any of the similar Wildiaries 
> reports I have so far
> tried to view.
>
> Once again, I may be doing something wrong............but what?
>
> In its current iteration I don't think I would be interested in posting any 
> trip reports on
> Wildiaries, sorry.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob Inglis
> Sandstone Point
> Qld
> Australia
> http://users.tpg.com.au/inglisrc/
>
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