RE: Re:[Birding-Aus] Brown Goshawk/Collared Sparrowhawk?

To: "'Greg & Val Clancy'" <>, <>
Subject: RE: Re:[Birding-Aus] Brown Goshawk/Collared Sparrowhawk?
From: "N & R Coghlan" <>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:49:55 +1000
Hi Greg et al,

To yourself and everyone else who has contributed to this discussion, be it
on the forum or in private, I'd like to say a big thank you for the
information and opinions/reasoning you've all provided. 

I'm normally not too bad with bird ID's, and if I can't get it then normally
my wife can, but this one had us a little perplexed. As a result of the
input here we'll be tagging the pics as being a Collared Sparrowhawk and
Brown Goshawk juv.

Thanks again!


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg & Val Clancy  
Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 9:13 PM
To: michael wood; ; 
Cc: N & R Coghlan
Subject: Re: Re:[Birding-Aus] Brown Goshawk/Collared Sparrowhawk?

The following is Stephen Debus' opinion on the goshawk/sparrowhawk photos, 
which agrees with my opinion:

Hi Greg,

The first photo shows the upper bird to be undoubtedly a Collared
Sparrowhawk, and all the photos of the upper (adult) bird look like
Sparrowhawk rather than Goshawk.  The juvenile is of course a Brown
Goshawk.  This case is one of a Sparrowhawk (probably female from the
size and square rather than notched tail) interacting with a Brown
Goshawk.  It certainly happens, when Sparrowhawks territorially evict
Goshawks.  I think I reported such cases in my study of Sparrowhawks years 




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