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Thomas and Thomas new edition

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Subject: Thomas and Thomas new edition
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:10:42 +1000
"The Complete guide to finding the Birds of Australia" by Richard & Sarah 
Thomas has apparently been out of print for a couple of years, and I can't even 
find any second hand copies around.  This web page says a new edition is due 
out this year:
http://www.wildsounds.com:
"The Complete guide to finding the Birds of Australia   Richard & Sarah Thomas
Out of Print. 180 of the best birding sites on mainland Australia and Tasmania. 
Information on locating all the resident birds and regular migrants. This title 
is now out of print, and we have no more stock. A new, revised edition will be 
published in 2009 280 pages."

Andrew Isles says "FORTHCOMING, due late 2009/early 2010".

Has anyone heard anything more about this?  In particular whether these 
publishing dates sound accurate, and to what extent it's being revised?

Peter Shute

Russell Woodford wrote on Tuesday, 21 April 2009 5:18 PM:

> Thomas and Thomas have half a book like you describe.
>
>
> Russell Woodford
>
> 
> Learning Technologies Coordinator
> Sacred Heart College Geelong
> An Apple School of Excellence
> http://www.shc.melb.catholic.edu.au/
>
> On 21/04/2009, at 11:12 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing that she wasn't trying that hard up to that point.  It
>> could be that she concentrated on knowing those 307 fairly well,
>> although it does seem a bit low.  I'm only up to page three, maybe
>> there'll be an explanation further on.  Was your 307 just Australian
>> birds?  I'm fairly confident the 890 isn't.
>>
>> Are you intending to write one?  I'm not sure how many of this type
>> of book the market can bear, but I think it could stand a few more.
>> The chapter on birding-aus would be interesting, something most
>> other books wouldn't have.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to reading PV's review.
>>
>> I just had an idea for a book.  All the where-to-find-birds books
>> I've seen are location based, i.e. you go to this place and you
>> might see this and this and this.  I don't know if there are any
>> species based ones, i.e for this species go to these places.  The
>> closest thing I've seen is the maps in the field guides.
>>
>> It would be interesting to be able to see a list of locations for
>> each species for each state, rated by likelihood, and tips on how to
>> go about seeing them.  Some species are easy, you just walk around
>> till you see one. Others require that you walk till you hear one,
>> then follow the call, others need to be staked out, and many require
>> that you know the right habitat and where to look in it.
>>
>> The might be books like this, but every time I need to research a
>> species I want to find I seem to have to search the Atlas, Eremaea,
>> birding-aus, Birdline, ask people, etc.  It might make a better web
>> site than a book, given that it might require a page or more per
>> species, and that some are best found by going to a recent sighting
>> location.
>>
>> Russell Woodford wrote on Tuesday, 21 April 2009 9:27 AM:
>>
>>> Even I did better than that. I've been birding for 27 years and have
>>> 890. I had 307 in 8 years and 9 months. But of course I haven't
>>> written a bestselling book about it. Yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Russell Woodford
>>>
>>> 
>>> Learning Technologies Coordinator
>>> Sacred Heart College Geelong
>>> An Apple School of Excellence
>>> http://www.shc.melb.catholic.edu.au/
>>>
>>> On 21/04/2009, at 9:13 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>>
>>>> You don't have a Waxwing, or you don't have that kind of fantasy?
>>>>
>>>> First day back at work for me since before Easter.  I'm exhausted
>>>> - holidays are so tiring.
>>>>
>>>> I got Sue Taylor's "How Many Birds Is That?" out of the library
>>>> yesterday.  She says it took her 30 years to get her first 307
>>>> species.
>>>>
>>>> Russell Woodford wrote on Tuesday, 21 April 2009 8:30 AM:
>>>>
>>>>> Fantastic - I don't have one. Where exactly did you see the
>>>>> Kennetbird, and how many were there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell Woodford
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Learning Technologies Coordinator
>>>>> Sacred Heart College Geelong
>>>>> An Apple School of Excellence
>>>>> http://www.shc.melb.catholic.edu.au/
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/04/2009, at 2:33 AM, Bill Stent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's tick, a Waxwing, seen at Gamla Uppsala.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A bird that looks like it's got a rdiculous quiff plus too much
>>>>>> mascara.  Much like the Young Liberal fantasy of Jeff Kennett...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Peter Shute <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Happy birthday Emma and Laurie! She'll never be 2/9 of his age
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>> Sent using BlackBerry
>>>>>>>



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