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Re: Final ID- Brown Goshawk versus sparrowhawk

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Subject: Re: Final ID- Brown Goshawk versus sparrowhawk
From: "Belinda Cassidy" <>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:30:14 +1000
Hi Chris,

I have been chatting to Stephen Debus about it privately, and he agrees with
what you've said. I was thrown by the length of the middle toe of the
Goshawks. But apparently the middle toe is supposed to be long in Goshawks
as well as Collared Sparrowhawks. He gave me some specific information about
the differences in toe lengths, which really helped.

Its exciting, because it means the Goshawks may nest really close by. I hope
so.

Thanks heaps for your help. I've learned a lot more from all the help I
received, and I really appreciate it.

Cheers,
Belinda



On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Belinda Cassidy <
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for following this thread, and trying to help me ID this large,
> beautiful, timid hawk that I keep seeing & hearing each day. After chasing
> the poor thing around for weeks, and strongly suspecting she's a Brown
> Goshawk, I now think that she's the Male sparrowhawk's mate, and that she's
> a Sparrowhawk, not a Goshawk (although she looks like one). I also think
> juvenile that was with them is also their baby.
>
> I've followed some advice and put all the pictures in one place on the web:
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> http://www.choond.com/hawks/
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> I will welcome any comments.
>
> Today I captured some more pictures of her. In one picture, she looks
> almost identical to how she looked yesterday- ie almsot identical toa
> Goshawk. But in another her toe is shown side-on and it appears (to me) that
> it is a fair bit longer than her other toes. And in another, she looks
> relaxed and at ease, sitting in the saem tree where I have photgraphed the
> male sparrowhawk.
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> http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/Serenity-photos/2008-HAWK-ROOSTING.jpg
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> http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/Serenity-photos/sitting.jpg
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> http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/Serenity-photos/2008-HAWK-FOOT.jpg
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> I have thought a lot about the possibility of there being two pair of
> raptors sharing the same territory and habits.  I'd love it if this were
> true, but with all the time we spend photographing birds, we'd have seen
> them, and noticed that the Goshawk female was so much bigger. And you'd
> think they'd fight some of the time.
>
> Many thanks again for helping me.
>
> Cheers,
> Belinda
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