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Bring Back the Sparrows?

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Subject: Bring Back the Sparrows?
From: "John Leonard" <>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:15:51 +1000
That should have been 1900s...

On 25/06/2008, John Leonard <> wrote:
> We should remember that the House Sparrows had it very good since the
> beginnings of agriculture. With large amounts of stored grain around
> the place and lots being spilt, they built up to large popualtion
> numbers. Since the decline of horse-drawn transport in the early 1990s
> and the beginning of mechanised farming (with more efficient grain
> storage), they are retuning to lower levels. It may be, however, that
> their numbers will plateau at lower level at some point.
>
> John Leonard
>
>
> On 25/06/2008,  <> wrote:
> > It is important to remember that the sparrow in the UK has been declared
> > threatened on the basis of its rate of decline, not its abundance.
> > Sparrows are still common but due to long-term records an alarming rate
> > of decline has been detected.  If only we had more long-term data on
> > Australian species we would be able to get away from the idea of
> > declaring species threatened on the basis of their abundance by which
> > time it may be too late.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> >  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> > Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2008 11:55 AM
> > To: Alan Gillanders
> > Cc: Birding-Aus Aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Bring Back the Sparrows?
> >
> > They seemed fairly common around Dover in England whilst I was there
> > recently. But I did not record them in many other places in Southern
> > England  - although it was not primarily a birding trip.
> >
> > 2008/6/25 Alan Gillanders <>:
> >
> > > G'day,
> > > I got the impression in Germany that the house sparrow was doing very
> > > nicely. I had never been there at the end of winter for any length of
> > time
> > > before but found them to be everywhere I had recorded them before.
> > While I
> > > keep no abundance records my feeling was that they were as numerous as
> > > always (over the last 14 years) in most places and more common in one,
> > > Immenhofen in Bavaria.
> > > Regards,
> > > Alan
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