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Do you think birds know when you are watching?

To: "Denise Goodfellow" <>, "Peter Shute" <>, "John Leonard" <>, "Birding Aus" <>
Subject: Do you think birds know when you are watching?
From: "Steve Ransom" <>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 11:11:04 +1000
Oh sorry, I didn't realise you were using a "semi traditional" gun when
you were shooting the buffalo.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Denise Goodfellow 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2008 11:13 AM
To: Steve Ransom; Peter Shute; John Leonard; Birding Aus
Subject: Do you think birds know when you are
watching?

I'll tell my semi-traditional Aboriginal relatives that.  As the women
in
particular still use hunting as a means to connect with the country, I'm
sure they will be delighted to learn of your insight.
Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow (Maralngurra).


on 7/5/08 10:32 AM, Steve Ransom at  wrote:

> If I were about to kill a defenceless animal, I doubt I'd have to
> courage to look it in the eye either.
>
> Stephen Ransom
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Denise
> Goodfellow
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2008 11:05 AM
> To: Peter Shute; John Leonard; Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Do you think birds know when you are
> watching?
>
> I behaved similarly when shooting buffalo years ago.  I'd walk
> indirectly
> towards them and not look  them in the eye.
> Denise L Goodfellow
>
>
> on 7/5/08 8:51 AM, Peter Shute at  wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by "walking obliquely towards them"?  Do you mean
> that
>> your body is partly turned away from them too?  If that really helps
>> then perhaps they're sensitive to whether a predator is in a position
> to
>> launch themselves at them, irrespective of whether it's looking at
> them.
>> I guess it would make sense.
>>
>> But if all these things are true then you'd think predators would
have
>> evolved the instinct to do all these tricks too.  Maybe they do.
>>
>> Peter Shute
>>
>>  wrote on Wednesday, 7 May 2008 7:38
>> AM:
>>
>>> This article descibes how birds focus on the eyes of a human,
>>> a human equally close to them, but looking away, is not
>>> perceived as so much of the threat as one looking direectly at them.
>>>
>>> I think this is soemthing that most birdwatchers will have
>>> learnt by experience. I have had this reinforced in my
>>> expereince of bird photography, where often you can get
>>> closer to birds by walking obliquely towards them with your
>>> head turned away, and then just turning back at the last
>>> minute to lift the camera and snap!
>>>
>>> John Leonard
>>>
>>> On 06/05/2008, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> When you are out in the field and watching a bird, do you
somertimes
>>>> feel that they know you are watching? Well have a look at
>>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080430075912.htm
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