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Wattlebirds (beginner questions)

To: "Peter Shute (NUW)" <>
Subject: Wattlebirds (beginner questions)
From: "Tom Tarrant" <>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:31:25 +1000
I should have read the thread fully!

Tom

On 11/28/06, Peter Shute (NUW) <> wrote:

He was answering an additional question about silvereyes.  I should have
started a new thread to avoid confusion.

On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:29 AM Tom Tarrant wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Where have you seen taxonomy that suggests Wattlebirds are not
> Honeyeaters?
> Most classifications that I've come across put them in Meliphagidae,
> I would be interested to see a different perspective.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 11/28/06, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>   No they are not honeyeaters - they do have a brush-tipped tongue
> similar to
>   honeyeaters (and quite a few other birds as well) but are not
> classified in
>   the Honeyeater family. Classification of birds (and indeed other
> life forms)
>   into "families" is part of a science called taxonomy, and different
>   scientists (called taxonomists) have different views on how to
> classify
>   species and families - similar appearance and/or behaviour does not
>   necessarily indicate the species are related in any way - just that
> they
>   have both evolved to perhaps feed on the same food source.
>
>
>
>   On 28/11/06, Peter Shute (NUW) < > wrote:
>   >
>   > On Monday, November 27, 2006 3:01 PM Michael Ramsey wrote:
>   >
>   > > Wattlebirds are honeyeaters, they are part of the honeyeater or
>   > > Meliphagidae family. Other birds with names that are not
> honeyeater
>   > > but are in the honeyeater family are chats, miners and
> spinebills to
>   > > name a few.
>   >
>   > What about silvereyes?  My reading suggests not, but my
> observations led
>   > me
>   > to assume they were.
>   >
>   > Peter Shute
>   >
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