Hi Bob,
good advice I'm sure.
 I was only talking about the battery for this M11 ("Naturally with  
these batteries") which incidentally is a 4 C NiCad battery. It also  
comes with it's own charger supplied by Pelican and the instructions  
from them recommend this charge / delete process a number of times as  
it lengthens battery life for each charge and ultimately its total life.
 The batteries on this flashlight don't "need" to be flattened but as  
I usually flatten them anyway while spotlighting it's not an issue.  
The charger that comes with the light is also a drip or trickle type  
charger which doesn't damage the batteries. My suggestion is only  
that periodically you should flatten them. I have worked this way  
with Dry cell motorcycle batteries for twenty years plus and have  
still got one of my original Yuasa Dry cell batteries! working just  
fine.
 I wouldn't personally recommend anyone carry around a battery with  
lead / acid (if that's what you mean?) I've always used Dry-cell  
motor cycle batteries (which nothing leaks out of) with the old  
Aussie shooters spotlights, which by the way is still great around  
Sydney but not much use for carrying on flights with the weight,  
wires, and size issues! It's several KG heavier due to motorcycle  
battery weight and needs a back pack of its own!. The chargers are  
also considerably heavier although much lighter than 20 years ago!
 This torch fits in a side pocket is strong, sturdy and well protected  
and comes with a car plug in charger too!
Regards and thanks for the interesting comments.
Alan
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On 19 Oct 2006, at 17:00, Robert Inglis wrote:
Hi Alan and others,
 Alan, you suggested: "Naturally with these batteries you need to  
charge, then flatten, charge,
flatten, charge, flatten and naturally, charge before going out into  
the field. They also last
longer with full discharging and charging each time."
 If the torch uses Ni-Cad or Nimh cells then your suggestion is  
reasonable. But if the torch uses
lead-acid cells (the so-called motorcycle battery) the suggestion is  
not so good. It is not really
advisable to continually fully discharge lead acid batteries.
 Doing so will shorten their working life and can make them harder, if  
not impossible, to recharge with standard battery chargers.
This goes for the liquid or gel type electrolyte batteries.
 The lead acid type batteries are probably better for spotlight  
applications as they hold their
charge better between outings. And they don't have to be fully  
discharged before recharging. In other words, they can simply be  
topped up, something that the other types of rechargeable batteries  
don't tolerate so well. Although the Nimh type are better than the Ni- 
cad type in this regard.
Cheers
Bob Inglis
Sandstone Point
SE Qld
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