At 11:50 AM 17/07/01 +0000, you wrote:
 
To all you taxonomists - Simpson and Day call it Torresian Imperial Pigeon -
Ducula bicolor.  Pizzey and Knight call it Pied Imperial Pigeon - Ducula
bicolor.   Monroe and Sibley (A world checklist of birds) call the Pied
Imperial Pigeon - Ducula bicolor occuring in S.E. Asia.   They also list
 Torresian Imperial Pigeon as Ducula spilorrhoa occuring in Australia. Has 
this
bird been split?  I have seen WHICH ONE in N. Australia?  I am off to 
Thailand
in 3 days, so is it worth chasing WHICH ONE on the offshore islands near
Phuket? If these have been split then it would be a "Lifer" Cheers
Robbie.
 
 
 Actually the treatment  of the bicolor complex in Sibley and Monroe 
(electronic edition, availble from Thayer Birding Software) is more complex:
 Ducula bicolor   PIED IMPERIAL-PIGEON.  Woodland, mangroves, coconut 
groves.  Widely distributed in coastal regions of se Asia and Indonesia, 
mostly on small islands and islets (but absent from islands where close 
relatives occur), from Andaman and Nicobar islands, coasts of se Asia 
(except s Burma, w,c Thailand and Vietnam, but present on Con Son Islands) 
and Philippines s,e through Indonesia (except Aru Is.) to w Papuan is. 
(Salawati, Misool) and coastal nw New Guinea (Vogelkop).  Includes D. 
melanura of the Moluccas, which may be a color morph of D. bicolor.  D. 
bicolor, D. spilorrhoa, D. constans and D. subflavescens are closely-related.
 Ducula luctuosa   SILVER-TIPPED IMPERIAL-PIGEON.  Woodland, mangroves, 
coconut groves.  Sulawesi.  Has been treated as conspecific with D. 
bicolor, but they overlap in north Sulawesi.
 Ducula spilorrhoa   TORRESIAN IMPERIAL-PIGEON.  Woodland, mangroves, 
coconut groves.  Aru Is., New Guinea (incl. is. along n coast from Geelvink 
Bay to D'Entrecasteaux and Louisiade archipelagos, but absent from far w), 
islands in Torres Strait and n Australia from extreme ne W. Australia e to 
ne Queensland and s to Mackay area.  Winters n to New Guinea.  Vagrant to 
Lord Howe Island and n New South Wales.
 Ducula constans   KIMBERLEY IMPERIAL-PIGEON.  Semi-deciduous vine forest, 
mangroves, thickets near water.  Ne W. Australia in the 
Kimberleys.  Original description by Bruce (1989. Riv. Ital. Orn. 
59:219).  Type locality near The Loop, Prince Regent River, Kimberley Div., 
W. Australia.  See D. bicolor.
 Ducula subflavescens   YELLOW-TINTED IMPERIAL-PIGEON.  Woodland, 
mangroves.  Bismarck Arch.,incl. Admiralty Islands.
 Gibbs, Barnes and Eustace in "Pigeons and Doves" (Pica Press, 2001), 
though, consider constans and spilorrhoa to be races of bicolor but treat 
luctuosa and subflavescens as separate species.  In their discussion they 
note that treating bicolor and spilorrhoa as separate species goes back at 
least to Goodwin's Pigeons and Doves of the World (1983).  The paper by 
Bruce that recogized constans and luctuosa, however, merged spilorrhoa and 
bicolor.  Gibbs et al note a complex pattern of introgression between 
bicolor and spilorrhoa in the Moluccas but state that "these may yet be 
shown to merit full allospecific status".  The chief difference is the 
degree of black spotting on the undertail coverts.
 In other words, the situation is unsettled, and you can probably treat 
them, for your own purposes, as you see fit.
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