Hello Craig,
 You've raised an interesting question as to whether immature 
Chestnut-rumped Hylacolas (I like Hylacola better than Heathwren!) have 
dark eyes. I briefly observed an immature CRH near Awaba (west of 
Newcastle, NSW) in December 1997 that I noted having no striations on the 
chest and a very dull eyebrow. Its identification was made easier by its 
being with its presumed parents. Unfortunately I didn't note the colour of 
its eye. From memory I think that it had a dark eye. Generally speaking, 
young birds do have darker eyes than older birds (at least finches do!). 
I've had a quick scan of a few books and I can't find any mention of eye 
colour in immatures. I've just started a little study on hylacolas in my 
spare time. If I get the chance I'll take a closer look at immature birds 
(probably not until later in the year). Does anybody else know anything 
about CRH eye colour?- I'd be very interested to hear from anyone who does.
 Not having much experience with Victoria I've no idea about Shy Heathwren 
distribution but I know that both hylacolas are supposed to be in the 
Bendigo area although separated by habitat choice. If you get the chance 
check out a couple of great little articles by Eddy (1959) and Ryan (1979) 
on both Hylacola species in the Bendigo area and their complete separation 
by habitat. Going by my map Rushworth is about 60 km east of Bendigo?
 What is the habitat at Rushworth? Whatever the bird was it sounds like a 
great spot.
Cheers,
Mick Todd
Michael Todd
Toronto, NSW, Australia
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References
 R. J. Eddy. Heath Wrens in Central Victoria. Australian Bird Watcher 1 (2), 
1959.
J. V. Ryan. Nearly forty years with Hylacola spp. Australian Bird Watcher 8 
(2):42-50, 1979.
At 02:00 PM 30/03/01 +1000, Rotamah Island Bird Observatory wrote:
 has anyone else encountered this species in this area?  The above 
mentioned characters led to believe that it was not a Chestnut-rumped 
Heathwren, do immature C-r H's have a dark eye, I guess
 
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